when you meet a family who has been here for 20 years who paid taxes and who worked hard, these are not the people who should be shipped back to a place where they are either going to be at poverty level or -- >> how many immigration lawyers were here in 1975 and how many immigration lawyers are there now? it is a huge business naturalizing these people. they have this huge lobby. >> legal immigration will always -- >> yes, legal immigration will be here. >> it was weird about part of the senator's plan about forcing you to move to mexico. >> that's not going to happen. i'm glad that you have immigrant parents and i am glad they are in this country and i am glad you successfully became an immigrant in this country. i am a little thing they like to call america. we have been here since the beginning. i am more native american than your wife. so what i say should be listened to. the fact of the matter is this is a nonissue. immigration is down big time. we are down since 2000. it has been going down since then. this is a nonissue. >> mexico has a lower fertility right now. they are not ha